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BW 4494 2wd upgrade + manual locking hubs

JPaul

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I like the feedback and your questions have some merit; given your experiences. I have decided to retain the factory functionally of the dashboard transfer case selector switch- It's what Hummer would have done. 2WD operation is like any other Chevrolet/GMC pickup truck equipped with a factory 2hi/4hi/4lo transfer case. Some pros of this are (1) power distribution 100% to rear wheels, (2) elimination of torque steer, and (3) acceleration!!! for everyday driving. The cons are (1) loss of full time AWD, (2) increased rear tire wear from the skinny peddle, and (3) manual input/selection of 4x4. It's true, I live in Florida and it does rain almost daily. Before owning the H3T, I drove my 2WD Silverado everywhere, including the rain, dirt roads, etc. The handling and readability of my Silverado was never an issue even on wet roads because the stability control system is designed to compensate for tire slip. But, I do agree with you on wet road handling- AWD is superior.

Based on your above description, your experience with driving in "2WD" on your H3 was different in a few ways. First, you removed the front drive train components completely, resulting in a large weight loss from the front suspension. This "sprung" weight loss over your front IFS more then likely caused under steer, poor handling, and alignment issues. Second, if you removed your front CV axles from the hubs, your hub bearings were doomed to fail- Fast. The hub bearings on a 4WD vehicle are designed to support the vehicles "Sprung" weight in the following order: Upper control arm- Steering knuckle- Hub/Bearing- CV Axle- Bearing/Hub- Lower control arm. The CV axle carries/distributes the majority of the vehicles weight while inside the bearing assembly. Additionally, an unsupported (Rear- Outer Axle Housing) bearing could drift in/out of the hub; everything I have read/researched about this topic is constant. Second, you mentioned no improvement in your fuel economy/performance. I would agree with you, given your approach. I also debated on physically disconnecting my front drive-line (front drive shaft removal), when I was completing some repairs/improvements. How would this affect the vehicle? Very simple- You now have only 60% of your engine HP/torque going to your rear wheels. The remaining 40% is wasted on the disconnected transfer-case front input shaft. I realized, no matter what, the factory 4494 was designed with a planetary gear set with a fixed power distribution 40/60. Given this information, its possible your MPG got worse even with the weight savings.

Lastly, your absolutely right about the need for additional CV axles in the future. I've considered this issue and I realized some added benefits of the Manual locking hubs may address this concern. First, IF I break a CV axle/shaft, I can unlock them and drive away. Never again will I be forced to perform repairs on the trail/road, in-order to get home. I would rather continue to use the H3T in 2WD until its fixed then be stuck. I don't do any rock crawling- that brings a whole other discussion on the topic. Second, the only custom part on the CV is the outer axle housing which I plan on having made for a rainy day; future discussion after I post some pictures. I hope I answered some if the common questions/concerns that I've read repeatedly on many H3 forum discussions on 2WD upgrades. Simply think about a factory Z71 4x4 and imagine that drive-line in a H3T!:thumbs:


Ok, first, please don't go back and edit a one sentence reply into a multi-paragraph response after there have already been enough replies to create another page on the thread. I had no idea you wrote any of this until I went back to re-read what I had originally written. If I hadn't done that I would never have known you wrote a short essay in replacement of your original one or two sentence response. Just do a new reply with a quote so that everything is in the original order and can be seen.


Second, you pros/cons seem to spell out to me exactly why not to bother with this modification.

2WD operation is like any other Chevrolet/GMC pickup truck equipped with a factory 2hi/4hi/4lo transfer case. Some pros of this are (1) power distribution 100% to rear wheels, (2) elimination of torque steer, and (3) acceleration!!! for everyday driving.

Just like every other 4wd pickup. Buy a Hummer, like nothing else, then turn it into the same thing as everything else. Doesn't seem like a win but OK.
Not sure why 100% to the rear wheels is a pro, unless you want to do doughnuts in the mall parking lot.
Regarding torque steer, this isn't a FWD car with a transverse mounted engine/transmission and unequal axle lengths. Nor is it anything that you should be worrying about torque steer with. It's a Hummer, not a turbo'd Civic. You're not winning any races with this thing. Plus torque steer is generally due to in-equal shaft lengths in addition to a transverse mounted engine/transmission. The CV axles are the same length as each other. And this is a longitudinal engine/transmission. Plus you're not just driving the front wheels, you're also driving the rear wheels. Another benefit of full time 4wd. Gosh I haven't had to think about torque steer in years, thank goodness.
Acceleration will see little to no difference. If anything it can be worse because now you're relying on only 2 tires with less weight on them to transfer power to the ground without breaking loose rather than 4 tires. You're going to break loose and lose traction far more easily in 2wd than 4wd. Power means nothing if you can't get it to the ground efficiently. Granted though it is cheaper to only have to beef up one end of the drivetrain to handle big power. But it is not the most effective way of putting it down.

The cons are (1) loss of full time AWD, (2) increased rear tire wear from the skinny peddle, and (3) manual input/selection of 4x4.

It's 4wd, not AWD. I guess it's OK to lose full time 4wd if you are OK with poor traction/handling in both dry and wet conditions.
Yeah, you'll wear out the rears more. Just have to do more frequent rotations.
So, taking some steps backwards with having to get out and manually locking the hubs rather than sitting inside your climate controlled, dry cabin and simply continuing on until you need to get into 4hi locked or 4lo locked and just push a button? That is definitely a con for me.

Before owning the H3T, I drove my 2WD Silverado everywhere, including the rain, dirt roads, etc. The handling and readability of my Silverado was never an issue even on wet roads because the stability control system is designed to compensate for tire slip. But, I do agree with you on wet road handling- AWD is superior.

I wonder how the H3 stability system does when it's only in 2wd. Hopefully it works OK, but again, the design for it was around it being 4wd, not 2wd. Might see some weirdness with it due to that. Stab systems are great and all, but they can't take a 2wd vehicle and give it the same handling and stability as a full time 4wd vehicle. Which this is full time 4wd, not AWD. Similar concept, but different execution. How long did you drive the H3T before deciding you needed to convert it to 2wd? I'm wondering if it wasn't for very long, so you haven't had the opportunity to experience the all around superiority of full time 4wd vs part time 4wd (2wd).
 

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Third, you don't seem know what you're talking about.

Based on your above description, your experience with driving in "2WD" on your H3 was different in a few ways. First, you removed the front drive train components completely, resulting in a large weight loss from the front suspension. This "sprung" weight loss over your front IFS more then likely caused under steer, poor handling, and alignment issues.

Yes, and no. Yes the weight loss would potentially affect handling. Except for the fact that the ThorParts front bumper and 12K winch I have on more than equal the weight loss of the front drivetrain (the effect is even more since they are farther from the axle centerline), so the handling would actually have gone back to stock compared to where I was before I took out the front axle. The reduced overall weight would have affected alignment but only slightly, certainly not enough to have the amount of impact I observed. I can guarantee that my bumper and winch combo weighs more than the entire front drivetrain (driveshaft, differential, CV axles). Plus reducing the front weight would have shifted the weight distribution more toward the rear which induces more oversteer than understeer.


Second, if you removed your front CV axles from the hubs, your hub bearings were doomed to fail- Fast. The hub bearings on a 4WD vehicle are designed to support the vehicles "Sprung" weight in the following order: Upper control arm- Steering knuckle- Hub/Bearing- CV Axle- Bearing/Hub- Lower control arm. The CV axle carries/distributes the majority of the vehicles weight while inside the bearing assembly. Additionally, an unsupported (Rear- Outer Axle Housing) bearing could drift in/out of the hub; everything I have read/researched about this topic is constant.

Lots of misinformation here. First, the upper control arm does nothing to support the sprung weight of the vehicle, it only keeps the knuckle in place. The lower control arm on the H3/T is what is actually supporting any weight since that is what the torsion spring bar attaches to, the other end attaches to the frame. The CV axle also does nothing to support the weight of the vehicle, it only drives the wheel, and in the case of the stock setup applies clamping pressure to the unit bearing, presumably to ensure that it doesn't come apart and fail. The tire, wheel, unit bearing, steering knuckle, lower control arm ball joint, lower control arm, torsion bar, and the attachment point for the torsion bar on the frame are what actually support the weight of the vehicle on the front. Even the wheel studs don't really support much of the weight when using the factory wheels, instead it's the flange on the hub that fits into the wheel that mainly supports the weight. The studs and wheel nuts primary purpose is to hold the wheel in place. Once you switch to aftermarket wheels though then you probably will see the studs holding weight primarily unless the wheels have been milled to fit onto the flange properly.

I really have no idea what you're going on about with the rear outer axle housing bearing. We're talking about the front axle. Unless you're talking about the unit bearing coming apart since nothing is clamping it together like I already mentioned?

You do understand that you're using the same unit bearing assembly for your setup as the stock H3, only modified, right? That's why I brought up the bearings potentially coming apart since there is nothing on your setup to keep the unit bearing together aside from the rollover crimp in the inner side of the assembly, which may or may not be strong enough to keep the bearing together properly over a long period of time. When I took my axle out I used a couple spare junk axles and split off the outer CV stubs from them and bolted them in place, torqued to the 190ft/lbs spec, to ensure that I had no issues. Not sure why you seem to be assuming that I didn't and had a hub failure since I never said anything about my hubs failing. You might have failures though, but I sure hope not as that could be catastrophic. Maybe it will just have a much shorter lifespan and you'll have to replace it more frequently? It'd be interesting to see since all I've really seen on it is speculation, no one has really been brave enough to try it for very long that I know of.

Second, you mentioned no improvement in your fuel economy/performance. I would agree with you, given your approach. I also debated on physically disconnecting my front drive-line (front drive shaft removal), when I was completing some repairs/improvements. How would this affect the vehicle? Very simple- You now have only 60% of your engine HP/torque going to your rear wheels. The remaining 40% is wasted on the disconnected transfer-case front input shaft. I realized, no matter what, the factory 4494 was designed with a planetary gear set with a fixed power distribution 40/60. Given this information, its possible your MPG got worse even with the weight savings.

You do understand that in order for me to drive at all in RWD only I had to have had the transfer case in 4hi locked, not 4hi unlocked, right? Which means 100% of the power is going to the rear. If I had left it in 4hi unlocked then I would have gone nowhere since the diff in the transfer case would then be an open diff and the front output would have just spun like mad with nothing attached to it. The rear output wouldn't have moved a millimeter. The 40/60 or whatever GM spouts is ONLY if both axles are hooked up to the transfer case AND the diff in the transfer case is unlocked. It is not like AWD systems that use clutches or other methods to control power transfer, it is a plain old open/locking differential. Once you lock the center diff then it becomes 50/50 because there is zero slip inside the center diff at that point (except when the front is completely unhooked, then it's 100% to the rear of course). This was the whole point of you having to modify your transfer case so that 4hi unlocked becomes 2hi. I didn't have 60% of my power going to the rear and 40% disappearing into the ether. So no, that was not the reason I did not see any MPG increase. The reason I didn't see any real increase is because the amount of drivetrain power loss on the front is so low, especially with the V8, that it's difficult to measure any change in MPG from it. Yes, it is less inertia and parasitic/frictional losses to overcome. However, it has far less effect than the mass and rolling resistance of my 33" tires which the engine still has to get moving even if it's not through the front drivetrain. Maybe if I was running 28" highway tread doughnuts it'd be more perceptible, but still unlikely. Don't forget the H3/T is about as aerodynamic as a brick.
 

JPaul

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Lastly, your absolutely right about the need for additional CV axles in the future. I've considered this issue and I realized some added benefits of the Manual locking hubs may address this concern. First, IF I break a CV axle/shaft, I can unlock them and drive away. Never again will I be forced to perform repairs on the trail/road, in-order to get home. I would rather continue to use the H3T in 2WD until its fixed then be stuck. I don't do any rock crawling- that brings a whole other discussion on the topic. Second, the only custom part on the CV is the outer axle housing which I plan on having made for a rainy day

If you break a CV shaft, you're definitely not going to just unlock the hubs and drive off. You will have to remove the CV axle completely or you'll be going nowhere pretty quick after it starts swinging around banging the crap out of everything within it's reach, like the upper control arm, steering linkages, shock absorber, swaybar and linkages, brake lines, ABS sensor cables, etc. So if you don't have a spare you'll need to remove the axle and make darn sure to block off the diff opening (since we don't have the bolt on CV axles like the 1500) and plug up the locking hub so that you don't get a ton of dirt and grit into them. Sure, you'll be able to use the truck in 2wd without having to remove the front driveshaft like the rest of us (which takes maybe 5 minutes to do), but you're not getting away with not doing any kind of trailside repair. This won't be a solid front axle which would allow you to just put it in 2wd and unlock the hubs so that nothing spins. A solid front axle allows that to happen (only if the transfer case actually doesn't spin the front driveshaft when in 2wd, some still do) ONLY because everything is nicely contained within the axle housing, so as long as nothing is trying to spin the front drivetrain then you can get away with that scenario. With CV's you have no such luck. There is absolutely nothing to hold that CV axle in place if it is broken except the boots, and they likely won't hold up for long with broken bits banging around in them as the suspension articulates up and down. You could get away with taking the CV axle apart and using the inner and outer stubs to block off the diff and hub, but that's an awful lot of messy work and not something I'd want to attempt on the trail. You "might" get lucky and have the main shaft snap rather than the CV's or inner/outer stubs and then somehow zip tie it in place and hope that it doesn't come loose, but frankly if anything breaks on that setup you are definitely going to be having to pull the axle out.

Understand that you do not have to do rock crawling to break stuff. Hit a dip wrong or get stuck in mud (not "mudding" mud but "it rained a lot before I went out on this normally mild trail" mud) can also break stuff. Trying to get up a hill can break stuff. You don't even have to be abusing the rig, stuff can still just break. Try driving in something that results in wheel spin and suddenly get a front tire that grabs traction. SNAP. I busted a rear diff going up a small ledge that everyone else went up just fine. Stuff just happens. Maybe your rear axle will break because it is used more than it was before since you're now pushing 100% on it the majority of the time. The 10 bolt is fine, but it's not bulletproof.

So definitely do not go out thinking that you don't need to be prepared to do trailside repairs, otherwise the day will come that something does end up breaking and you're stranded because you thought you could simply unlock the front hubs, put it back in 2wd, and drive away. Plus, have you thought about what situation you would be in that you'd be in 4wd and have something break? Do you really think you can then put it in 2wd and just drive away? Odds are you'll be in a situation where at the least you'll need a recovery either forwards or backwards. And/Or a trailside repair. Because in that situation 2wd is probably not going to cut it alone.


Lastly:

Simply think about a factory Z71 4x4 and imagine that drive-line in a H3T!

Then just get a Z71 4x4. I never was really impressed with the Z71's. They're fine and all, but nothing amazing. The current model year ones look decent spec wise. Not sure that I'd bother with one though. I can think of much nicer rigs to use. Like a Powerwagon.
 

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If you break a CV shaft, you're definitely not going to just unlock the hubs and drive off. You will have to remove the CV axle completely or you'll be going nowhere pretty quick after it starts swinging around banging the crap out of everything within it's reach, like the upper control arm, steering linkages, shock absorber, swaybar and linkages, brake lines, ABS sensor cables, etc. So if you don't have a spare you'll need to remove the axle and make darn sure to block off the diff opening (since we don't have the bolt on CV axles like the 1500) and plug up the locking hub so that you don't get a ton of dirt and grit into them. Sure, you'll be able to use the truck in 2wd without having to remove the front driveshaft like the rest of us (which takes maybe 5 minutes to do), but you're not getting away with not doing any kind of trailside repair. This won't be a solid front axle which would allow you to just put it in 2wd and unlock the hubs so that nothing spins. A solid front axle allows that to happen (only if the transfer case actually doesn't spin the front driveshaft when in 2wd, some still do) ONLY because everything is nicely contained within the axle housing, so as long as nothing is trying to spin the front drivetrain then you can get away with that scenario. With CV's you have no such luck. There is absolutely nothing to hold that CV axle in place if it is broken except the boots, and they likely won't hold up for long with broken bits banging around in them as the suspension articulates up and down. You could get away with taking the CV axle apart and using the inner and outer stubs to block off the diff and hub, but that's an awful lot of messy work and not something I'd want to attempt on the trail. You "might" get lucky and have the main shaft snap rather than the CV's or inner/outer stubs and then somehow zip tie it in place and hope that it doesn't come loose, but frankly if anything breaks on that setup you are definitely going to be having to pull the axle out.

Understand that you do not have to do rock crawling to break stuff. Hit a dip wrong or get stuck in mud (not "mudding" mud but "it rained a lot before I went out on this normally mild trail" mud) can also break stuff. Trying to get up a hill can break stuff. You don't even have to be abusing the rig, stuff can still just break. Try driving in something that results in wheel spin and suddenly get a front tire that grabs traction. SNAP. I busted a rear diff going up a small ledge that everyone else went up just fine. Stuff just happens. Maybe your rear axle will break because it is used more than it was before since you're now pushing 100% on it the majority of the time. The 10 bolt is fine, but it's not bulletproof.

So definitely do not go out thinking that you don't need to be prepared to do trailside repairs, otherwise the day will come that something does end up breaking and you're stranded because you thought you could simply unlock the front hubs, put it back in 2wd, and drive away. Plus, have you thought about what situation you would be in that you'd be in 4wd and have something break? Do you really think you can then put it in 2wd and just drive away? Odds are you'll be in a situation where at the least you'll need a recovery either forwards or backwards. And/Or a trailside repair. Because in that situation 2wd is probably not going to cut it alone.


Lastly:



Then just get a Z71 4x4. I never was really impressed with the Z71's. They're fine and all, but nothing amazing. The current model year ones look decent spec wise. Not sure that I'd bother with one though. I can think of much nicer rigs to use. Like a Powerwagon.


Thanks for this Info :thumbs:
 

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I measured the shaft diameter and inner needle bearing at 1.3125 inches, or 1 5/16 inches.

My next posts will be of the install. Lets see how these things function.
 

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Not crazy about the hubs. But the t-case mod is sweet. I wanted to do something similar many years ago...replace the planetary variable assembly with a solid coupler. Nice work.

We solid axle guys already have manual hubs.

FWIW...I have driven my H3 in 2wd mode for years, and have ZERO issues with handling or braking.
 

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I just wanted to add, on a modded H3 making more power, you get torque steer.
Half throttle with the steering slightly turned and the front tires yank on it really hard making it super difficult to hold it straight.
Im mainly interested in the 2wd mode at the tcase though! Probably help keep the front diff alive longer!
That and it would probably allow me to regear the rear to 4.88 and keep the front stock, when I get to use 4wd im already on soft sand with weight generally biased to the rear Im sure the tcase wont mind the difference. Seen jeeps with mismatched front/rear axles get away with that here
 

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I recently installed 2wd conversion from George at Transfercase.com. Works really well 5 cylinder appreciates it. George also has 20 kits left to convert standard transfer case to 4:1 transfer case , haven’t installed the one I bought into my wife’s h3 yet.
 

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BW4494 2wd

I recently installed 2wd conversion from George at Transfercase.com. Works really well 5 cylinder appreciates it. George also has 20 kits left to convert standard transfer case to 4:1 transfer case , haven’t installed the one I bought into my wife’s h3 yet.


You’re correct, it’s a great improvement and the Owner, George is beyond Helpful and knowledgeable! This is the company who made it all possible::thumbs:

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Not crazy about the hubs. But the t-case mod is sweet. I wanted to do something similar many years ago...replace the planetary variable assembly with a solid coupler. Nice work.

We solid axle guys already have manual hubs.

FWIW...I have driven my H3 in 2wd mode for years, and have ZERO issues with handling or braking.
I'd say that isn't a great comparison, we know you are a little different than stock lol
 

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This is quite the project!

I can say there have been several periods in the past 7 years of owning my T that I drove around with the driveshaft removed (so "2wd") and didn't notice any adverse handling effects... maybe the longer wheel makes a difference?

Either way I am excited to see how this turns out! Keep it up!
 

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Im guessing the guy that did this is the one that builds the hub kits for silverados as well. I have concerns about the dramatic decrease in shaft size where it goes through the wheel bearing with his design as is necessary to facilitate the locking mechanism. If you are not offroading your truck then it isnt a problem but for us its definitely an issue. I have a 2wd H3 running the np241 and I hate how it handles compared to our other ones with awd but to each his own.

http://therammaninc.com/products/sh...1500-Truck-4X4-Locking-Hub-Conversion-Kit-301


So, this now has me pondering, thinking lol! Thanks atvspeed4... haha
I think to much already (according to the loved ones).
Is it it viable, useful to do this to the extent the video is showing? I mean 3oz tube of grease seems extreme. Cant you over grease these?
May be not. Will the tone ring be affected by that amount of grease?
 

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I recently installed 2wd conversion from George at Transfercase.com. Works really well 5 cylinder appreciates it. George also has 20 kits left to convert standard transfer case to 4:1 transfer case , haven’t installed the one I bought into my wife’s h3 yet.
***Please describe 'how it works really well'

What improvements are you talking about with the ride of the H3???

Did you gain any MPG when driving on 2wd?

How much $ did this Transfer case cost you ?
 
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gfbh3t

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Think about it this way. The same year Colorado or canyon would have 3.42, 3.73 or 4.10 gears. Same engine, transmission axle housings. Weight wise about 900 lbs difference. So by disconnecting front axle and transfer case running In 2wd the Colorado uses higher gear ratio. Achieves better fuel mileage. Just sold our canyon with 359000 miles so before you nay sayers say I’m wrong I have plenty of experience with both vehicles. The T drives more like a Colorado now when in 2wd mode. And just like it did before when hubs are locked and in 4wd
 

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hmmm guess i am a little late to this party

there is a vid on youtube that shows how shift any stock H3 from awd into 2wd :)

with what a magic button? the vehicle is AWD, the transfer case does not have a 2wd only option?
post the link to the video
 

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Hubs Installed!!

Well, everyone here might have some experience removing hubs, but rusted “welded” on hubs??? If not, I can give some good advise that worked well for me. #1 Bearing puller, #2 penetrating oil, #3 BIG A** Hammer! :hammer::hammer::hammer:


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This is my first Thread; better to start off strong!

I’m a new Hummer owner and loving every minute!
I’ve been reading everyone’s posts for some time now, even prior to purchasing my H3T. After having this truck, I feel that GM was onto something with the H3T, but they were cut short and we were left wondering what versions they would have released. Interesting enough, I used the internet way back machine “historical website archives” and located information on hummers website eluding to just that; H3T sportsman. This truck was going to offer an upgraded suspension, engine, transmission, and 2hi,4hi,4lo transfer case. So, since I cant buy one I’ll build one!

I bough my truck with high miles (150k), so it needed some help if it was going to be my daily driver: front and rear 2.0 fox shocks. Upgraded breaks. Replacement bushings( All of them! ). Replacement control arms, upper and lower. New oil seals, engine, axles, trans, etc. The truck now has a good foundation and drives amazing!

So, after weeks of labor and overnight parts from rockauto and GM, the truck is ready! Onto the H3T upgrades!!!!

First order of business:

#1 Upgrade the BW 4494 transfer case. Without this custom piece none of these upgrades would be possible, or even worth the time. Lucky for me, I have someone who builds them. Information/pictures/specs forthcoming!

#2 Custom manual locking hubs. I’ve read a lot of forums and tech GM,Jeep manuals. I’ve also took everyone’s opinions on this topic into consideration. One argument which is common,”it won’t work without locking/free spinning hubs.” So, I have found someone who made me a custom pair of front IFS manual locking hubs and CV shafts. As stated above, information/pictures/specs forthcoming.

#3 Engine performance improvement. TBD- possible heads,cam, and HP-tune.

#4 ??? Who knows!

I hope this draws some interest into continuing to improve this vehicle. I’m super excited about seeing how this truck drives, handles, and outperforms ALL those Jeep Gladiators on the road. That includes all the Z71’s, ZR2’s and whatever else they can steal from the past Hummer engineers. Thanks for reading the post, I will take pictures and collect information about this transformation as it’s done.


UPDATE- 04/05/20

Hubs and Axles have failed! DO NOT BUY THEM; Axle broke inside the locker which required disassembly of the CV to remove the hub/fused axle shaft.
Hi
Thanks for the updates. I'm also willing to install locking hubs for my H3 2006 manual transmission. I found this guy (the following video) and it's so surprising that as per your experience, it doesn't work.

 

Happy Hummer

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Wow, $1700. I'm sure the prices for materials and workmanship, etc. have increased with the current market?
Would it not be less costly to remove the front driveshaft/propshaft and just drive your H3/T. I mean that is essentially what is being played out...correct?
I mean I know your front hubs are unlocked which will reduce rotational mass in the front axel assembly and reduce wear on inner components. But that sure seems like a large investment to run your truck in 2wd most of the time.
If the price could be reduced to say, $999 or less maybe it would prove economically sound.
Each to there own. Just my 2cents.
 
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