snatch straps

[digglesworth]

I just got 2 13500lb shackles, a 2x20' and 2x30' tow straps and now I'm looking at picking up a snatch strap.... What's enough strength? 17500lb? 24000lb? 33000lb? I'll probably go with arb or similar. Bubba rope is nice but a little pricey for me.

 

[Pappibri]

This is my next purchase. I like the Bubba Rope, but to pricey for the amount of use I will give it. Here is a good option by Smittybuilt. http://www.autoanything.com/winches/smittybilt-snatch-strap

 

[Chocflip201]

I have the 30k ARB. Have only use it once so far. I dig it.

 

[RamRod]

A local shop told me the formula for selecting a snatch strap and I believe it's like this:

Take the weight of the heavyest rig you expect to pull out, add that to the weight of your rig then multiply by 1.5

I could have it slightly wrong but it is something like that.

When it comes to snatch straps it's best to get the right tow rating so you you get the proper effect, selecting a higher rating than needed doesn't mean it will work in all scenarios properly because it won't stretch enough as designed if used with too light of vehicles

.... Hope this all makes sense I am on some powerful Meds right now and might have to come back and edit my posts later haha


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[digglesworth]

I too looked at that smittybilt...
RamRod, if that formula is correct, a 17,500 should be enough. But I think it depends on the speed at which you initiate the snatch. Higher speed equals more force.
I also look at the lowest rated component. What good is a 30k strap if the shackles are only rated at 10k....
I'm thinking either the 17,5k or maybe the 24k...

 

[Best4x4]

I highly recommend the ARB snatch strap to that sh!ttybilt strap. I ended up with one as a gift, and it tore clean in half when I tried to recover a stuck Ford Explorer on the beach!!! Ford was barely stuck, and I had hardly taken up the slack before it just let go... Total waste of $$, save 15.00 more and go with ARB! Much much better quality product and any recovery gear should be anything but cheap IMHO.

 

[RamRod]

I have also used the TJM snatch straps and they worked well, the Toyota club here is almost exclusively using the TJM straps so I guess that speaks for something


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[digglesworth]

TJM is an Australian company I believe and those dudes don't mess around with crappy gear. I bought a smittybilt 2x20 and a guy at work just gave me a teraflex 2x30. Should be ok for "tow" straps or to use with my hi lift for winching... But I need a good snatch strap in the bag.
Best4x4, what arb do you have?

 

[Best4x4]

I have the mid-sized ARB snatch strap. On my Jeep's I used the smaller ARB705 strap, but the H3 weighs more so I went with the ARB710 snatch strap. Works great and it holds up to being used.

 

[Chocflip201]

I don't mean to change the direction of this thread, but make sure what you are hooking your straps up to is up to the task of being yanked on. And practice safe recovery techniques.

Warning-super graphic-two deaths.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec7_1341527931#dcHQ9xcrR8xJDP3U.01

 

[digglesworth]

I believe that's the 24k strap. Do you have a 30' length?

 

[digglesworth]

I don't mean to change the direction of this thread, but make sure what you are hooking your straps up to is up to the task of being yanked on. And practice safe recovery techniques.

Warning-super graphic-two deaths.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec7_1341527931#dcHQ9xcrR8xJDP3U.01

That's why I always wonder about these things. What good is a rated strap if the shackles you attach it to are not the same rating. I know using my hi-lift to winch, the jack is the lowest rated component at 7k pounds. I assume everyone just uses the stock d-rings on our bumpers... What are those rated for? I'm thinking about getting a tree strap to use as a bridle between two points to help spread the load. I wonder if I could move my license plate up to the spare and use the Thorparts kit to add a d-ring to the drivers side of the bumper... And possibly the receiver attachment w/ the shackle.

 

[4speedfunk]

Holy cheese whiz....right between the eyes! Damn. At least it was quick.

 

[Chocflip201]

I think this was a pintle hitch or something homemade. I have used my stock D-rings before, but also there was a lot more going wrong in that scenario than just poor attachment point.

Even when I use my D-rings everyone is out of the way completely. Granted it's a lot harder to do that at a race event with hundreds of wild people.

 

[ABNTROOP]

He never saw it coming :shifty:

 

[digglesworth]

I wonder if he even saw it coming...

 

[06 H3]

Super pricey but I hear great things about bubba rope. I dont have one but would love to get one.

 

[Chocflip201]

I DO like the fact that bubba rope is round rather than flat.

 

[Best4x4]

Yeah it's 30ft if I'm not mistaken Digglesworth.

Yeah I saw that video earlier today. It was not being handled properly or in a safe manor at all! From the angle of which it was being done, to the rather uncontrolled jerking back n forth, to the people being less than 3ft away. Not to mention the condition of the equipment to begin with.

People always complain about my steel winch by instantly saying OMG that is deadly.... I take a deep breath and kindly educate them on how it is "supposed" to be used. On one of my wheeling trips a few years back we had a winch cable snap on a Jeep, but since it was properly being used with a heavy arb line saver it just fell to the ground. I prefer steel cable to synthetic line, but each has it's ups and downs.

 

[digglesworth]

I saw someone use a dampener on a snatch strap. Is that common practice? They also used the arb tree strap to connect the front 2 recovery points...

 

[3Hummers]

Wow.

 

[Highatop]

That is a crazy video. Never thought a strap could do that...

 

[Chocflip201]

That is a crazy video. Never thought a strap could do that...

Keep in mind it wasn't the strap that failed here, it's whatever the guy had in his hitch.

 

[3Hummers]

Yes. His D ring or Clevis failed/pulled off the bumper. If the strap had broken it would have lost most of it's kinetic energy.

 

[Best4x4]

Yep damage to their heads was caused by a chunk of metal from the bumper/hook. I've seen a chain go flying and it was not pretty... Lucky for the driver no one was killed, but the damage to his paper plate truck was extensive to say the least... Bumper, tailgate, back window, roof, interior, and even the front windshield and hood. Chain didn't break it was the point where it was attached, in this case his friends 2inch ball from his receiver hitch... A very big no no...