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BRAKE JOB Front Brakes

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Dennis

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Due to some requests for me to document the Brake Job I performed on my 06 H3..I by no means am suggesting this is the best way or the only way, in fact it is only my version of what I did and in no way am I a pro...You are more than welcome to uses this information, but at your own risk …here it is…


To begin with, I’ll consider everybody knows enough about why to Use jack stands and how to take off a tire, etc...You need a 19MM socket for the lug nuts and when re-installing, use 100 lbft of torque. (do not lubricate lugs)..Clean, dry and dirt free is what they should be.



Word of advice: if you are installing brand new rotors..first take them to a tire and wheel place and have them checked for run out..I bought 4 new ones and one of them needed to be turned to true it up…



SUPPLIES:

4 cans of spray Brake Cleaner

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Anti-Seize compound



Brake Lubricant
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¼” rubber or plastic tubing and a container for waste oils


00 steel-wool or Scotch bright

A ton of old rags or towels

TOOLS:

3/8” and ½” ratchet(s) and ½”Breaker bar.

19MM, 18MM (1/2” drive)
15MM, 17MM 11MM, 10MM, (combination box wrenches)
6” adjustable wrench
C-Clamp that will open about 6”
Small flat tip screwdrivers
Needle nose pliers

Small art paint brush



Once the tire is removed the first thing is to wash down the caliper assy with Brake Cleaner to flush out all the loose crap and dirt, don’t use it all..have a drip pan (waste oil container) under the hub to catch the run off.

Next: remove the little spring clips in the ends of the Pad guide pins and then pull out the pins…Clean these pins real good with scotch bright or steel wool to make them shiny and smooth...Lubricate the whole pin with Brake Lubricant and set aside for now.


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Next: Remove the little spring thingy that fits into the bottom of the caliper holding the pads apart

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Next: remove the Brake pads..you can use a small Phillips screwdriver to pry them up by the holes in the top and they will eventually work out to where you can pull them out by hand..Save one of the worn out pads for later.


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Next: Remove Caliper assy from Hub by removing two 18MM bolts..they are on tight, so you may want to use the ½” breaker bar.
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Next: Remove the caliper assy and compress the pistons using one of the old pads and a C-clamp...be sure to crack open the bleeder nipple first (10MM box) and drain it with ¼” tubing to the pan..If you don’t open the bleeder nipple, you might push the other set of pistons out of the caliper. Close bleeder nipple off before you remove C-clamp, this will prevent air from sucking back in. Do both sides of caliper.
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Next: Clean caliper assy as best you can..especially clean the area where the Pad edges slids on..then lubricate, also lubricate heavy, the piston edges..more here will stop squealing later NOTE: Be careful not to strain Brake hose..support caliper on an upside down pale or something.



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Next: work off these little pain in the ass keepers..don’t break them as you’ll need them later to hold the new rotor in place while you assemble everything.
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Next: Remove rotor by screwing in two 17MM bolts in the pre drilled and tapped holes in the rotor ..Do not beat off with a hammer.
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Next: Clean rust from hub face with scotch bright or steel wool and then smear a light film of anti-seize compound on the face of hub.
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Next; Install new Rotor and secure with those little star keepers I told you not to break while removing.

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Next: Reinstall Caliper assy and drop in new pads (pad with the squeaker goes to the inside) Reinstall that spring thingy, then Slide in guide pins and reinsert the little keeper clips in the ends of the pins.

Done

Next well do the rear Brakes


First..Disengage the Parking Brake Cable
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Now remove the Caliper assy guide pin bolts (14MM)
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Then remove the Caliper Cradle Two 15MM bolts and clean and lubricate all the slide areas and the guide pins that are inside the rubber cups.
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Next: remove the rotor like you did on the front ones and you will see a Drum Brakes Assy..(Parking Brake)..Flush this area out real good with Brake cleaner and leave alone otherwise.
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Next; Clean the caliper and compress the pistion the same way as you did in the front brake (crack open the bleeder nipple with a 11MM box wrench) and lubricate the piston edges and the appossing side that touches the outside pad..Squeaker pad goes on the inside up against the piston.

Use the anti-sieze in the same area as the front brakes.

Reassemble basically in reverse and don't forget to top off Brake reservoir with fresh Delco Supreme II DOT3 fluid after you pump up the Brakes.
 
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Bigunit

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Dennis,
Excellent , detailed DIY thread with some great close-up pics. Thank you for posting this up. :cheers: Now, even I feel that I can now do the brakes on my T!
 
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Dennis

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Dennis,
Excellent , detailed DIY thread with some great close-up pics. Thank you for posting this up. :cheers: Now, even I feel that I can now do the brakes on my T!

Thanks a lot Bigunit...If you ever have question before or after you start..I pay close attention to this Forum now and I will help you anyway I can.
 

Fish

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Impressive writeup Dennis! I see you have got to know your rig quit well...I remember we bought our identical rigs near the same time..I do miss it now and then
 

cbetts

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Very nice writeup. I could have used that a few months ago when I did my front brakes. You are not kidding about the tight bolts on the calipers! I ended up using a not-so-kosher method of compressing the calipers in place.

I am printing this out and putting away for future use. Thanks!
 

08H3

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Nice writeup! Just curious, but how many miles did you have on your rotors? I changed my pads at 75K, but the rotors had only negligible wear.
 
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Dennis

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Nice writeup! Just curious, but how many miles did you have on your rotors? I changed my pads at 75K, but the rotors had only negligible wear.
Thanks for the compliments!


I had 54K miles on this original set (a fraction of an inch from when the squeakers touch)...It's just me and my anal ways...but when I do a brake job..I don't mess around with turning the old rotors..I put on a completly new set of everything..basically start from new again..But that's just me..there is nothing wrong with resurfacing the original rotors if there is enough meat left on them.
 
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Dennis

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Great tutorial Dennis. What is the next tutorial?

Shocks?
Suspension upgrade?

Anxiously waiting for your next issue.

Thanks..LOL!:)

I'm just shaaring..don't want any credit as I had to learn from others and by trial and error..

I did do a DIY on the Transfer Case fluid replacement sometime ago on another forum..I could re-visit that..But I'm not sure if I have pictures still of the event..I'll check around on my thumb drives

Also I'm about to Bleed the brakes..but that horse has left the barn already here..don't want to beat it to death
:deadh:
But thanks again

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EDIT:..I just checked, and I still have pictures of my DIY Transfer Case fluid change...Anyone interested I'll post it..otherwise, I don't want to wear out my welcome too soon..:bl9:
 
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MaxPF

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To begin with, I’ll consider everybody knows enough about why to Use jack stands and how to take off a tire, etc...You need a 19MM socket for the lug nuts and when re-installing, use 100 lbft of torque. (do not lubricate lugs)..Clean, dry and dirt free is what they should be.

I always use anti-seize (Jet-Lube Kopr-Kote) on wheel studs and a bit on the lug nut taper. It massively reduces wear on the fasteners and actually gives more consistent preload on the stud. Torque to 70-80ft-lbs (spec for a clean, dry 12mm grade 10.9 fastener is 83ft-lbs - 100 is too much). Likewise, I use anti-seize on the threads of the fasteners that hold the calipers on for the same reasons.

Next: work off these little pain in the ass keepers..don’t break them as you’ll need them later to hold the new rotor in place while you assemble everything.


I toss 'em whenever I do brakes on a vehicle that has them. They are only intended to hold the rotor in place on the assembly line.

Next: Remove rotor by screwing in two 17MM bolts in the pre drilled and tapped holes in the rotor ..Do not beat off with a hammer.

Tapping around the periphery on the inside with a plastic-faced mallet to get them off is OK. Just don't wail on them with a steel BFH. However, that's only a last resort if you realized you don't have the bolts after you have everything else apart - using bolts to press the rotors off is MUCH easier.

 
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Dennis

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I just wanted to add, that I don't make up numbers or data, I tend to rely on the engineers that put these things together, that they know better than me.
So in keeping with credible information..I went to the Owner's Manual.

To begin with, I’ll consider everybody knows enough about why to Use jack stands and how to take off a tire, etc...You need a 19MM socket for the lug nuts and when re-installing, use 100 lbft of torque. (do not lubricate lugs)..Clean, dry and dirt free is what they should be.

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f5moab

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I just wanted to add, that I don't make up numbers or data, I tend to rely on the engineers that put these things together, that they know better than me.
So in keeping with credible information..I went to the Owner's Manual.



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Totally agree. Not only are the torques determined by fastener engineers, but there is hell of a lot of testing that follows for wheels/brakes, etc., due to the liability. In addition, if you add a anti-seize compound to the wheel and torque it to 85 lb-ft, you are in effect torquing to 100 lb-ft. The k-factor in a anti-seize compound on a threaded stud is about 15-20 percent.

But I will agree that those retainers are not needed. They are used only by the suppler to keep the rotors on the axles during shipping and during the body drop onto the chassis.
 
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But I will agree that those retainers are not needed. They are used only by the suppler to keep the rotors on the axles during shipping and during the body drop onto the chassis.

Next: work off these little pain in the ass keepers..don’t break them as you’ll need them later to hold the new rotor in place while you assemble everything

I can see why they were oriignally used..But they sure held the new rotor in place nice until I could get the caliper back on..made things less cumbersome.
 

MaxPF

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The owners manuals are written for idiots. Most people can't even change a tire, let alone know that there is such a thing as "torque specs" or a wrench that can indicate the amount torque applied to a fastener. The problem with putting 100ft-lbs to a clean dry fastener is that there is seldom such a thing when it comes to wheel studs. They always have dirt, grime, and occasionally even rust. Not to mention galled metal from the nuts being repeatedly torqued on dry threads. Running the threads dry guarantees an erratic amount of preload and DOES shorten the life of the fastener. When I said to use anti-seize i also said to torque to 70-80ft-lbs - I was counting the reduced coefficient of friction with the AS.

The warning in the owners manual about the tire coming off is absolutely moronic. If that was the case, every engine would have rod and cylinder head failures since their fasteners are ALWAYS assembled with some type of lubricant. I have used anti-seize on my wheel studs for years and they are always as tight when I remove them as they were when I installed them. My current front studs are 7/16" and get torqued to 70ft-lbs with AS. Rears are 14mm and get torqued to 100ft-lbs. I have never had an issue, and I have driven tons of road miles and wheeled the piss out of it. Same goes for pretty much everyone I know.
 

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MaxPF...so true. The same rule applies to Loc-tite. For some reason people think that if you use Loc-tite, you'll never get a fastener off again. So if anyone is wondering...

Anti-seize will not make your fasteners fall-off.
Loc-tite will not weld them in place.

These are both great products and I use them regularly without any issues.
 
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